[Catalyst] Gentlemen, a call to arms!
Sascha Kiefer
sk at intertivity.com
Thu Oct 12 19:19:57 CEST 2006
Okay. It's done.
Perl is now among the choices: http://www.plat-forms.org/
(http://www.plat-forms.org/faq.htm)
But we just won a battle, not the war yet.
So, lets bring it on.
We should at least get 2 teams that already live in germany.
And maybe we can give a cent ot two for a foreign team.
Myself is living in dubai right now. so i'm not sure if I'm able to
participate at all.
Hang loose,
--esskar
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:catalyst-bounces at lists.rawmode.org] On Behalf Of Dami
> Laurent (PJ)
> Sent: Donnerstag, 12. Oktober 2006 16:22
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> Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Gentlemen, a call to arms!
>
>
>
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : catalyst-bounces at lists.rawmode.org
> > [mailto:catalyst-bounces at lists.rawmode.org] De la part de John
> > Napiorkowski Envoyé : mercredi, 11. octobre 2006 22:15 À :
> The elegant
> > MVC web framework Objet : Re: [Catalyst] Gentlemen, a call to arms!
> >
> > -- Matt S Trout <dbix-class at trout.me.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.plat-forms.org/faq.htm
> > >
> > > They're having a platform war. We're forever left out of
> > the ruby vs.
> > > python games, the "enterprise" people ignore us (though
> really, I'm
> > > not sure I mind that :) but ...
> > >
> > > "We have been considering Perl as one of the platforms to
> > be admitted
> > > to the contest. So far, we have decided against it because
> > we believe
> > > that too few professionals use it professionally for us to
> > hope to get
> > > enough requests for admittance for the Perl platform.
> > >
> > > If you are a team that would like to participate and would
> > like to use
> > > Perl, please contact prechelt at inf.fu-berlin.de (Lutz Prechelt)."
> > >
> > > This is a bit of a shotgun e-mail. Several list admins
> are probably
> > > going to attempt to track me down and shoot me in the
> head. I don't
> > > care.
> > >
> > > Our community has repeatedly failed to market it's way out
> > of a paper
> > > bag, I've even helped contribute to this with my eminently
> > forgettable
> > > London Web Frameworks Night talk. But this is about
> > producing working
> > > code. *That* we know we can do.
> > >
> > > Stand up and be counted. It's gotta be good for a laugh
> if nothing
> > > else.
> >
> > From reading that webpage I think they are looking more for
> requests
> > from teams that would actually be willing to go to Germany on the
> > competition date. I'm not sure if we all just wrote, "Hey
> I'm an IT
> > consultant using Perl/Catalyst or Perl/FrameworkOfChoice
> and think you
> > are making a big mistake not putting Perl on your list." if
> that would
> > sway them.
> >
> > They are betting no one will put up the cash to sponsor a
> Perl team.
> > And they are looking for several teams for each platform, enough to
> > make a contest between developers in a platform meaningful.
> >
> > The rules specify that they won't be comparing platforms, so their
> > won't be any, "Perl versus ROR verus J2EE" going on.
> > So that's why they want enough people for a given platform
> to show up.
> >
> > Now if we could identify some awesome Catalyst developers who could
> > are willing and available to go to the contest and then
> raise money to
> > send them I think it could raise their attention. We have
> to decide
> > if this particular contest represents a good investment of our time
> > and cash. Perhaps some of the local or reasonable local
> Perl Mongers
> > could send some teams? It would show the strength of the community.
> >
> > Anyone know more about the actual status and recognition of this
> > contest? Would having perl programmers at it meaningfully
> add to our
> > mindshare in the enterprise?
> >
> > --john
> >
>
> Hi all,
>
> I think this contest is a very good opportunity for Perl and
> Catalyst to get more recognition. About the status of this
> contest, I guess nobody knows much more than what is on the
> website, but I can imagine that the final report will have
> quite a broad audience. The previous paper by Lutz Prechelt
> (An empirical comparison of seven programming languages) is
> cited quite often, as it is one of the very few sources for a
> fully objective comparison of several languages, ignoring the
> hype and religious wars.
>
> As John wrote, the best way to convince the organisers to
> change their mind is if they get several requests from Perl
> teams to participate in the contest. The call for
> participation says "Preferably, all three participants should
> come from the same organization". So, if your organisation is
> using Perl/Catalyst -- I hope there are more than a few
> nowadays -- , then please write to the contest organizers
> saying that you would like a Perl track to be opened. Also,
> we should probably alert the Jifty, Maypole,
> CGI::Application, etc. communities to join that lobbying effort.
>
> Laurent Dami.
>
>
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