[Catalyst] Is it normal to have lots of trouble installing catalyst?

[John Napiorkowski]

Keeping a log would be nearly impossible I think :)

I'm glad I am not the only one.  I think the advocacy
for this project should really reflect this
installation issue.  To be honest I get really
frustrated when I see that the catalyst homepage
claims to support all these OS's and it implies
installation is a breeze and then I spend days feeling
like I must be doing something really wrong.  I
understand that the competition with Ruby on Rails and
others probably drives these decisions.  Plus I know
that the people who are developing this stuff are way
more smart that I am and maybe for them installing
catalyst is easy.

I Think this problem will be really really hard to
solve.  Because there are so many dependencies it
would be a huge task to figure it all out (or a really
smart Perl programmer that really understood CPAN and
the module installation process.)

I'd like to hear from people about the tricks they
used to get Catalyst installed on their servers. 
Maybe this could for the kernal of a FAQ.

--john

--- Mark Blythe <perl at markblythe.com> wrote:

> John, I've had much the same experience here.  It's
> frustrating to say the
> least.  I'm quite happy with Catalyst once it's
> installed, but the initial
> setup has been quite difficult for me each time I've
> tried it.  I need to
> upgrade again, and I've been putting it off just
> because of this issue.
> 
> It's usually the dependencies that have issues for
> me.  In particular, I
> think I've routinely had trouble with Module::Build,
> among others.  Next
> time I try, I'll be sure to keep a log of exactly
> what happens.
> 
> On 2/7/06, John Napiorkowski <jjn1056 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm just asking for people experiences trying to
> > install catalyst.  I've done a lot of web searches
> and
> > all I get is that using catalyst is as easy as
> having
> > a modern version of perl and typing "perl -MCPAN
> > -e'install Task::Catalyst'" but that hasn't been
> the
> > case for me.
> >
> > My typical experience with installing catalyst is
> that
> > CPAN tries to install what appears to be hundreds
> of
> > prerequisites and then dies for various reasons.
> > Typical one of more of the required files dies but
> > it's hard to tell since each required file seems
> to
> > spawn off a dozen new required files and I kind of
> get
> > lost as to what is dying and for which reason.
> >
> > I figured my perl was just way out of date so I
> tried
> > downloading perl5.8.8 and compiling a fresh
> install
> > from scratch.  Pretty much the same trouble.
> >
> > I find I can get Catalyst installed after about a
> day
> > of messing around and liberally using force
> installs,
> > but of course I am not sure if that is so good. 
> I've
> > tried installing Catalyst on FedoraCore2, Cento4.2
> and
> > the most recent version fo Ubuntu linux.  I also
> tried
> > installing it on Activestate Perl for Windows but
> gave
> > up completely in that one :)
> >
> > I am not asking anyone to solve my problems.  I
> just
> > want to hear from you all if my experiences are
> just
> > plain strange or if this is the norm?  I
> understand
> > Catalyst is in heavy development so there are
> bound to
> > be troubles, but I just need to know if this is
> > something I can really start to rely on for my new
> > projects.  Other people clearly are, so I am just
> > really confused that I am having so much trouble
> with
> > this.  To be honest if I spend days trying to set
> it
> > up on my clients servers that is not going to look
> too
> > good.  So please your honest opinions.
> >
> > John
> >
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