[Catalyst] How do you talk about Catalyst in 25 minutes?

[Christopher H. Laco]

Sebastian Riedel wrote:
> 
> Am 18.11.2005 um 13:39 schrieb Zbigniew Lukasiak:
>> My comment about unfriendly welcome was more based on irc
>> conversations.  Any way it's nice to see people supporting my point of
>> view.  I admit that the approach of generating examples with simple
>> substitution is a bit crazy, but at least it is simple on both sides -
>> creation of examples and using them.  If anyone have better ideas how
>> to reach those two goals than I'll cooperate.
>>
>> I put the example at: zby.aster.net.pl:3001/example .  Thats temporary
>> - until I manage to fix some problem with apache.
> 
> I'm sure all i said was that it's not going to be included in the core
> dist.
> We have a api for helpers (Catalyst::Helper), you should go the way of
> Handel and just provide a separate cpan package.
> 

Speaking of Handel, the WOW factor, and Catalyst Helpers, here's where I
see things for me...

Catalyst = the raw framework. No fluff.

Handel's Helpers and or Catalyst Helpers = things that create more
framework bits. No fluff.

Some other dist = full fluffed out commerce site...or db editing
site...with full eye candy fluff.

In other words, I see three distinct levels of things when it comes to
Catalyst apps. I like that. I don't see that when I look at RoR or
Django. Maybe that's just a presentation difference, or an exposure
difference on my part.

-=Chris
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